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Post by donkeykong on Jan 7, 2011 11:25:15 GMT -5
I guess I will not state my opinion and just play with the rules. Make them cut and dry so no excuses can be made.
The no extended swing arm rule is unfair if wheelie bars are allowed....that all.
No fun to race if I dont race to win....looks like there will be a few extra trophies since there is so many extra classes.
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Post by fun racer on Jan 7, 2011 14:42:00 GMT -5
Well Donk you said it, your just gona have to live with the rules set. Not sure why you are cryin so much about the swing arm deal??? Don't understand what a swing arm dose for you. Moving the axel back changes the center point of gravity and changes your traction (good or bad). Swing arms are expensive, Looks like they tried to make the class as close to OEM as possible without adding a bunch of rules that can not be enforced. You have 3 other classes to run in. Isn't that enough?If swing arm extensions are the same as a wheelie bar then why do some people run both?? If I am not mistaken they had a banquet to discuss these classes where you there??? I don't know cause I was not. If you were not then shut your trap and just come race like I do!!!!!
I think you and scrow dog need to think of other racers just a little instead of your own agenda. Looks to me that the class is set up for more of a OEM class. U guys racing against dosn't make sense, anyone can build a bike and beat up on stock bikes anyday, there is no honor in that, just some ego stroking....
If there are to many classes for you then maybe you and scrowdog can fix this by just having one class, run what you brung! Yes you and scrowdog have fast bikes, very fast, but if you don't allow otheres the ability to compete then you might as well just call it "donkdog racing club" cause your the only ones going to be goin down the track by yourself!!!
Just a view from one that likes to come race for the fun and maybe win every now and then.......
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 7, 2011 17:23:31 GMT -5
Me crying...you have it mixed up. I guess since I race to win I take the fun out of it for everyone else.
I wasn't at banquet cause I was out of town on business. I allow others to race...I look forward to seeing someone stepping up to the plate and beating me and scrowdog. Imagine how excited they would be with the hard work they put in there bikes? Then with the challenge I would have to figure out how to make my bike faster. I thought et racing was they ticket to make racing fair?
As far as the swingarm...I have never owned a extention. I can set my bike up well enough with a wheelie bar not to need on or even need straps. I have no intention of even racing that class but do you remember what happened when Dave Kenney showed up and made his bike fit in that class? Everyone throwed a fit and he didn't get to run. I had the clubs back on that but in all honesty he was right. My point is if you wanna make rules fair then you should make them clear and they should make sense. The swingarm deal doesn't make sense. Heck screwdog can't run that class based on his exhaust anyways so I don't know why you think it's because of him.
As far as having honor in racing...that blows my mind...I lost the first et style race. They look on the ladies face beating me was worth more to me than any trophy. She was on top of the world that night. I look forward to those that have the same look when they do the same.
Might as well do all et racing even at fairs....it's only fair. Maybe make a riding tractor class in the heads up class since it's all about fun.
It's a shame they allow guest to post since people can hide behind a name. But for what it's worth if anyone wants to talk to me send me a message and I will send you a phone number or I can call you. I am a open book.
With the amour of classes in heads up maybe the two race clubs should merge together that's in are area.
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Post by scrowdogracer on Jan 7, 2011 17:55:28 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;DI was goona let this go,buuuttt frig it.....Fun Racer grow some balls  log on with a name dont sit back and point...Yes I race SERIOUS when Im not sleeping at the line ::)so whos crying here.Donk said it all and what he forgot I picked up...GROWSOME THIS IS RACING  |
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Post by bandsracing on Jan 7, 2011 18:25:41 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;DI was goona let this go,buuuttt frig it .....Fun Racer grow some balls log on with a name dont sit back and point...Yes I race SERIOUS when Im not sleeping at the line ::)so whos crying here.Donk said it all and what he forgot I picked up... GROWSOME THIS IS RACING LMFAOROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Best post ever! |
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Post by fun racer on Jan 7, 2011 20:02:39 GMT -5
Well I have balls sense I called you two cry babbies out. Brent has been nothing but trouble for this club, hell he almost ran over someone with his truck, stoped and kicked over the atv sign last year when the baby didn't get his way at a race. He has never helped with a race yet and as soon as he dosn't get his way again he will blow up and quit. He is a hot headed cry baby and will be the demise of the club....just wait and see how he handles this.....He already has posted vulger childish remarks. I guess when u live off mommy and daddy and they protect you all your life you act like that. Dont worry Brent mommy will bail u out of jail again if you need it......
Donk, WTF dose Dave K have to to with this, if the rule says no swing arm why cant you just deal with that. If you are not racing that class why u crying about it.
What dose signing in have anything to do with who I am, if I did sing in u still wouldn't know who I was because you scrowdog, are too worried about how u look and trying to beat everybody to notice the real supporters of this club. Like I said quit worring about yourself and you own agenda for a change, your ego is big and fragile but it isn't hard to be top dog in Ratcliff......
Like I said, a racer that wants to have some fun racing every now and then,,,,,
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 7, 2011 20:38:43 GMT -5
First off...I was riding with Brent that day. Yes he was hot tempered and didn't handle the situation exactly right but he didn't come close to hitting anyone. That's a fact.
Maybe you wished you had some parents like him....heck I do.
As far as my ego? Your wrong again. I have been a good supporter of this club. I haven't had nothing bad to say. As far as the demise of the club? That will happen when you push the true racers out of it. We are the ones that spend the money to compete. We are the ones that truly want the club to grow so we can have people to race against. Keep adding classes and rules that don't make sense and see what happens....what happened to the kiss rule? Keep it simple stupid!!!!
Well the Dave situation has alot to do with this. I stated why. Now I look back I see the issue was actually a bunch of cry babies. He's to fast I won't race him so I will take my bike and go home. That's what 8 racers said so Dave couldn't race. Talk about crybabies. Guess if your fast no one wants to race ya. I think the rules should be black and white and in print so there isn't any issues this year. That situation gave the club a black eye in a way. That happens alot and less and less people will show.
Btw I have I think 7-8 classes I could run in this year. I am making changes to stay within certain classes. I am sure that might piss some of the Almost Full Thorttle racers like you.
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Post by scrowdogracer on Jan 8, 2011 0:03:13 GMT -5
First off lets just say "THATS MEAN'' AND QUITE FRANKLY THE CLUB IS DESTROYING ITSELF....As far as HOTHEADED.....YUP!!!!Everyone knows I say what I think u got problems with that SORRYYYYY...By the way Ive worked for what I have and PROUD to have parents like I have.Jail ....again YUP.....Been there did that,does that make me lower than you OR JUST FASTER......Dont worry bout my ego or my reputation I will be just fine
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 8, 2011 10:20:52 GMT -5
Scrowdog I think someone has a hard on for you. I guess since your a hot head they hide behind fun racer. I guess since I am your friend they don't care much for me for that much. For some reason stating my opinion pisses people off. I almost take it that some people would rather not see us show up and race.
Also fun racer it looks like you are pushing your own agenda as well. All I have stated is that there is too many classes. Less bikes in each class equals less fun for all us Fun Racers. If there is less than 4 bikes in a class it sucks. I have raced long enough to know that. Also the no swingarm rule isn't fair if wheelie bars are allowed. How simple is that? Don't see how that pushes my agenda? I was content with the classes last year.
DATES / TIMES
Fri. July 30th @ 6pm - Vinton Co. Fair / 300ft heads-up, possible index classes to follow heads-up
Fri. Aug 6th @ 8pm - Athens Co. Fair / 200ft heads-up
Wed. Sept 8th @ 6pm - Albany Independent Fair / 170ft heads-up
CLASSES
Jr- 0-110 ( pipe only mod ) 12yr and under
Jr Pro- 0-150 ( any mod ) 12yr and under
1.) 0-300 ( 4 and 2 stroke)
2.) 0-400 ( 4 stroke )
3.) 0-400 ( 4 and 2 stroke)
4.) 0-525 ( 4 stroke ) no wheelie bars, stock frame
5.) OPEN
6.) 0-350 Utility
7.) 0-450 Utility
8.) 0-550 Utility
9.) 0-700cc Utility
10.) OPEN 4x4
11.) UTV
I don't see why 8 classes was added from last year. I doubt we get a extra 30-50 bikes to fill those classes. Instead we have less bikes in each one. With less bikes it's less fun. I raced a few times in the 450 class and lost everytime almost and guess what it was still fun. So my point is more classes = less bikes in each class= less fun which =less people. The club was growing so why change so much. Sounds like at the banquet everyone wanted a class for their bikes to be able to win and the got it. Talk about cry babies. I net the same people picked grass in the outfield when the played little league ball.
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Post by scrowdogracer on Jan 8, 2011 14:53:55 GMT -5
Hi boys it's Misty just how much dirty laundry do we wanna air? I got baskets full.
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 8, 2011 14:56:21 GMT -5
I don't know about laundry but I dont mind the dirty steaks:)
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 13, 2011 14:32:35 GMT -5
Is it still basketball season? I suck at basketball.
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Post by grizzly on Jan 14, 2011 9:40:32 GMT -5
Donkey,
Yes it is still basketball season!
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Post by donkeykong on Jan 15, 2011 19:10:15 GMT -5
I went riding today...must be 4 wheeler season now...lol
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Post by raineysmotorsports on Jan 16, 2011 2:20:26 GMT -5
donkeykong u be better off to have a shorter swingarm maybe that help u scince u dont have the hp to worrie about it some times a -2 swing arm and a center to center bar will help u more if ur not makeing lot of hp
wheelie bar : perferred for every class ( safety) thats a start add rear brakes and a kill switch helment and test ever bike at first race of yr that way everyone has chance to fix them i dont care about any hate mail i get but i been to lot races in my day and seen ppl get hurt for cuting conners <like no steering stops>
4.) 0-525 ( 4 stroke ) no wheelie bars, stock frame
and ur fair races with no bars in 0-525 class is stupid if u got a ktm 525 thats runs at all u should have a bars if this for dave k not to run in it that means buy ur rules that if he has a 12 over swinger and drag pipe it ok so all he got do get stock chassis so guess what that be nothing to him so curveing rules not going to help u out that much it ppl crying about geting beat and building bad ass bike so they dont lose has made this sport fast
but i am a no one to this club and i have no one to please win or lose i am in it for fun and looking forward to 2011 season
if ppl keep crying and rules change ever race this club will die just set rules and live buy them and the racers will build to that as it stands now u race one week and the next week rules will change and u haft run anouther class
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log on with a name dont sit back and point...Yes I race SERIOUS when Im not sleeping at the line ::)so whos crying here.Donk said it all and what he forgot I picked up...GROWSOME THIS IS RACING 
